Q&A With Gabe Valenzuela
How do you prioritize between family and ministry?
- The stance that I’ve taken is that I don’t have a missions statement or a organized way to prioritize time with my family or getting work done. The approach I’ve taken is that if I steward my hear really well, I’ll be a good leader, husband and dad.
- When it comes to ministry, I don’t define ministry by what we do here at Bethel.
- Ministry is not what you do, but it’s who you are.
- If you can take care of who you are, then whatever you touch in life will be your best ministry.
- Any time a sacrifice is made, my kids have to pay a price or my wife has to pay a price. For example, Sunday I work from 5am to about 10pm so I don’t really see my family. So I rarely schedule meetings in the evenings. They are generally free which is big for my family. Then if I’m home for the weekend, I spend time with my kids. That’s when I pour into them.
- As far as traveling and scheduling my year, I don’t have a grace to be gone a lot. So Candice and I pray into what we should invest into and we will go on trips spread throughout the year so that I’m not consistently gone, or we will travel together.
What are you passionate about?
- My family and my kids are my passion. We’ve always been focused on our family, but right now it’s a little more emphasized because they are in their formative years.
- Growing as a leader is another passion of mine. I need to grow in some areas, so that’s what I’ve been going at personally.
You are a little bit competitive. How do you think this helps you? And does it hurt you, if so, how?
- It’s my drive. I like winning, I like being successful… I usually don’t do things I’m not good at. People invite me to do things and I won’t if I’m bad at it because I won’t enjoy it.
- My wife has added to my life the fact that it’s not always about winning, so I’m learning.
- I like to give everything to whatever I do.
- It hurts me when I lose sight of people. I’m not always competitive, but I’m learning to let it fuel me instead of causing problems.
How have you learned to deal with making mistakes when you are giving your best effort?
- It’s going to happen, whether it’s speaking, parenting, coaching… anything in life, you will make mistakes. So I try to learn from them instead of going back to the concern about the mistake.
- If it’s a tough emotional mistake, I will learn not to trust the emotions, especially when I’m stressed out or tired. I get into a place of balance and then make decisions.
Is there anything that bothers you about our students?
- We have been pouring into our city for years, and I don’t like it when messes are made with students who don’t compose themselves as they should.
- That’s probably the toughest one to chew, but it does help us learn.
You’ve modeled pursuing healing for yourself while ministering healing to others with your hearing problems. How do you cultivate faith and keep faith in the midst of discouragement?
- I don’t get discouraged now as much as I did when I was younger. Maybe once or twice a year.
- My responsibility in this journey is to take care of my heart. When you are part of a movement where there is high expectancy, it is important to keep myself from striving or conjuring up faith.
- When I hear a breakthrough, I just think “I’m one day closer”.
- And I have a list of things that I will do when I receive my healing.
Do you set vision for your life, do you know where you are headed? Do you feel called to Bethel your whole life?
- Of course it’s something I think about but I don’t expound on it too much.
- Candice and I don’t have geographical locations attached to our heart, we aren’t wired that way, we have things that we love to do.
- It also depends which season you are in. Sometimes we aren’t in the same one. How do you navigate when one feels in their place and the other does not? That’s a tough one. But when we’ve been able to hear what we are called to together we follow that.
- We don’t have plans, so right now we are here and this is where we are at. That could change tonight, but my approach is that I’m here until God calls me elsewhere.
- When we were in Weaverville, I didn’t want to stay there forever, but I approached it with the mentality that if I was I would do it well.
What was it like when you inherited the lead pastoral role at Bethel church?
- It was made clear that the job did not become my own because of the last name Johnson, but because I had a firm foundation and strong shoulders to stand on.
- Candice and I made sure that as long as there was complete freedom for us to be who we are in this role we would give it two thumbs up, but if we were expected to fill the shoes of another, we wouldn’t be okay with that.
Many of the students who have come here have left spiritual fathers and will be going back to them. Do you have any advice as a father for how to navigate that?
- Make sure that you have a ton of grace. If you don’t, you need to get it soon.
- There are spiritual, generational and emotional differences, so it’s often work for people to live in fatherhood, but it releases a lot of life and there is great fruit.
- We now have sons and daughters who are becoming mothers and fathers.
- Everyone’s responsibility is to have a lot of grace, and be willing for it to look differently that you expected.
- When you want to disconnect, that’s probably when you need to lean in the most.
- There are a lot of challenges, but that adds value to relationship.
You have a very high pinnacle of leadership here at bethel. So what are some of the challenges for you, and how do you address them?
- I don’t do what I do because I know how to do it, I do what I do because I have the grace to do it.
- Those are two different ways to function.
- One of the things that helps is that I’m naturally very confident in me. Very rarely do I need encouragement from someone else. I like it, but I’m strong on the inside.
- So when something comes up, I think “I can totally do this” which helps a lot. If you don’t have that, you need to find a way to get it.
- I always keep the word of the Lord before me that I read when I need to to remind me what I’m called to and what the Lord has said about it.
- The moment you step across that line into what you’re called to, the grace will be there. Don’t wait for the grace before you cross the line.
- I’m also good at receiving feedback without becoming defensive. Receiving feedback is taking in what they’ve said and looking for ways to improve instead of being defensive or justifying what you’ve done. I have maintenance guys giving me feedback because they have my permission. In leadership, don’t have yourself be your only form of feedback.
- If someone is 5 layers back from me who has an issue with what I’m doing, my door is open to feedback. It takes guts to keep your door open to that. But it helps us to grow.
A big part of what you do is preaching. How do you prepare for that?
- In my early twenties I hated preaching and speaking. I just didn’t want to do it. My issue wasn’t a fear of public speaking, but I just didn’t have any desire to do it.
- So I prayed, God this is what I do, so please give me a fire for it.
- Judah Smith came on a sunday morning and preached on clay pots. When he was done, I was catching people he prayed over, but then he called me up and said “the Lord’s going to show you what to share and give you the desire to do so”
- The next morning I woke with a desire to preach for the first time. I still had to learn how, but I now had the desire.
- You need to learn how your mind functions with information, and how your heart processes information. Often times you will have a message on your heart, but when you go to share it’s unsatisfying.
- I’m not a linear thinker, so I can’t think in an outline process when it comes to revelation naturally.
- Banning is more linear and I tried to prepare like him and it was frustrating. I am more of an ideas, thoughts and concepts guy. So then I sat down with a note pad and wrote a thought in a bubble, drew a line and connected it to the next. It worked much better. I only write down the lines that trigger thoughts for me so that I can flow. This didn’t fix everything, because I would tend to go on rabbit trails. Over the years I’ve learned that if I go off on a trail, I have to connect to the main trail soon because I can get lost.
- I avoid teaching new revelation. Don’t let your excitement drive you into a new teaching.
- We might not have enough respect for the people who teach and preach, because they shift the way people think. So we should not put pre-mature teaching out there.
- If you do preach new revelation, preface it with “I’m still processing all of this, so I might not agree with everything I say at the end of the day”. But if you don’t say this, you’re playing with dangerous territory.
- Sometimes I will say “I do have some convictions on this, but I’m not ready to present them”
What advice can you give any leader?
- Do what you love to do.
- You must have the ability to say no and set boundaries, otherwise your ministry will run your life. At the end of a person’s life, people only talk about your relationship with God, and how you were as a father, sister, friend…
- Don’t compare yourself to other leaders. It’s destructive, poisonous. God knows what you can handle, so that’s what he gives you. When you compare yourself with others, you are stepping out of grace. So stay in your own lane and grow where you are planted.
What is your DISC personality?
In the strength finders test, you have a zero under relator. But you have managed to build family and community that is very strong, which is something you value but don’t have as a natural strength. How do you actually do that well?
- I married somebody. A lot of the family feel that we have in the leadership of Bethel comes from Candice. I love people, but it’s not my first gauge in all honesty.
- We gather people and love people. So if you come on my team, you will meet a group of people who wake up in the morning and think “How can we build family and community”. For me that’s not my emphasis so I have people around me who think that way.
What does a successful 2nd year graduate look like to you?
- Someone who knows how to thrive in any situation or location. This goes back to stewarding your heart.
- There is a group of students that we’ve developed relationship with in Norway and we set aside a whole afternoon for the alumni in this area. And we’ve noticed that it usually takes about 2 to 3 years for a student to feel like they are thriving. And they get there by getting really close to God so that they can hear him really well, and staying close to people who are burning.
- If you can get into that place where your heart is thriving, we will be hearing stories of all your exploits.